They really need to do one after 4 years to get the true picture. I don’t think Toyotas of the last 10 years are anywhere near as great as they used to be, but still in a different league from Hyundai/Kia.
Look where Mercedes is at, they have been coasting on the illusion of previous quality for 20 years.
The 2022+ tundra’s aren’t the most reliable anymore.
But also stuff just isn’t lasting as long as it used to. I have a ton of original factory parts on my 04 tundra that have never been changed (245k miles), but I see 3 year old cars come in for a new alternator or power steering pump now.
You do have to look into this to work out what counts as a “problem”. “My phone keeps losing bluetooth connection” is as serious as “my differential exploded”.
Infotainment “problems” were twice as numerous as any other category in this survey. It seems unfair to write off the whole car because of that, but it’s what bothers people nowadays as much as mechanical reliability.
These results are bought and paid for. I knew a few industries very well and from the rankings in those industries it was obvious JD power works a lot more like a lobbying group than anything credible
Didn’t correlate to my personal experience. Had a 2021 Kia Sorento SX Prestige X-line for 12 months, only to be replaced under lemon law with a same trim 2022 Sorento which I had for another 3 months before trading it in. Worst 2 cars I’ve ever owned. Tons of problems, some major, some minor. Now I’ve been driving a 2022 Toyota Highlander Platinum AWD for 16 months, not a single problem or frustration. A breath of fresh air in comparison
Is this 2023 production vehicles only? So they’ve only had about a year to gage reliability? I refuse to believe that my beloved Toyota isn’t higher up there for 2000-2023 cars…
Chevy and Buick are shipping out new full-size SUVs with 3 cylinder turbo charged engines (no way that will be reliable long term), just to barely compete with fuel efficiency. How on earth is a GM turbo charged 3 cylinder comparable or superior to a Toyota 4 cylinder or 4 cylinder hybrid?
Edit: it looks like the study is also based on infotainment failures and such. The system should be weighted. The volume button not working on my steering wheel shouldn’t be valued the same as a catastrophic engine failure.
Traded my 2014 Corolla for a 2021 Hyundai Veloster N. Veloster N is very quick, a track/auto-x monster, and a hoot to drive; but it was a huge mistake. I’ll keep it short and sweet.
I’ve used the Veloster N’s warranty 3 times in 2 years for electrical issues.
I used the Corolla’s warranty 0 times in the 6 years I owned it because all it ever needed was oil changes, filters, and plugs.
I’m definitely trading the Veloster N for a used Prius when rates go down. Then I’m gonna go hunting for a clean EK hatch to K swap.
As a person who loves Toyota, they have gone down hill… the issues my cars and suv have are ridiculous and are easy fixes but Toyota refuses to fix these problems. My old 2005 echo windows will open at -45 my 2021 rav window will open and then fail to close and the reset needs to be done at Toyota…. Mirrors any mirrors are horrible and unusable oh the have a fix yeah that doesn’t work just get glue everywhere.
Kia has been launching pretty good cars they’ve improved quality a lot I didn’t like that car company before friends had old models were bad since 2012 they’ve become really good friend bought a Sportage thing is really neat
This may just be anecdotal but I have a 2019 Lexus GX460 and a 2019 Genesis G70. Both were bought brand new with warranties and in the 4 years I’ve owned them, neither have ever given me a problem whatsoever.
car companies have to pay JD Power for an “evaluation” and each problem is valued the same no matter the severity. Toyota doesn’t pay JD Power anything but they are pretty much obligated to put them at the top or else it would look really bad if Chevy and Nissan are always up there (two biggest contributors)
JD Powers is nothing but a bunch of bullshit reviews that gives favorable reviews to the highest bidder. As a mechanic I can absolutely say with 10000% certainty that Toyota/Lexus will walk circles around ANY brand of car out there. Honda is up there too though they don’t hold the same level of quality as toyota does and that’s coming from a Honda mechanic/dedicated brand loyalist. The fact that Hyundia/Kia made it in the top…. laughable at best.
Say what you guys wanna say but Toyota just is not the same as the old 1990s Toyota’s. Realistically no brands are reliable anymore. I work for a Toyota Dealership and it really seems like Toyota lives off the fact that their cars 20 years ago would run forever. Toyota doesn’t not make all the electronics in the cars. And thats what most of the returning issues are for. It’s almost never engine trans issues, but everything else. I wouldn’t be surprised over the next few years to see that drop further. My 2022 Tundra is literally the most clunky rattly vehicle I have ever driven. Still love the brand and love the company, but profit over quality I think has definitely changed.
They really need to do one after 4 years to get the true picture. I don’t think Toyotas of the last 10 years are anywhere near as great as they used to be, but still in a different league from Hyundai/Kia.
Look where Mercedes is at, they have been coasting on the illusion of previous quality for 20 years.
The 2022+ tundra’s aren’t the most reliable anymore.
But also stuff just isn’t lasting as long as it used to. I have a ton of original factory parts on my 04 tundra that have never been changed (245k miles), but I see 3 year old cars come in for a new alternator or power steering pump now.
Maybe the quality of parts has gone down.
They are mad 2019 rav4s dont have android auto but dont mind that Kias can be stolen using a usb cord.
I feel like this is based off donations to JD power
You do have to look into this to work out what counts as a “problem”. “My phone keeps losing bluetooth connection” is as serious as “my differential exploded”.
Infotainment “problems” were twice as numerous as any other category in this survey. It seems unfair to write off the whole car because of that, but it’s what bothers people nowadays as much as mechanical reliability.
Why is Honda so far below BMW?
9 out of 10 car thieves recommend Kia for how reliable they are to steal
lexus is practically toyota so i guess toyota wins
Friendly reminder OP, JD Power rates problems without any weight. So a cylinder wall exploding and a squeaky trim piece are “one problem” each.
These results are bought and paid for. I knew a few industries very well and from the rankings in those industries it was obvious JD power works a lot more like a lobbying group than anything credible
Kia and Chevy paid to be above Toyota
That comes out to 1.6 problems per car for a Toyota. I have had 2 problems in 5000 miles so that sounds about inline.
Even more surprising is that the top Euro brand is Mini/BMW.
noooo muh reliability isn’t at the top of a list noo
Didn’t correlate to my personal experience. Had a 2021 Kia Sorento SX Prestige X-line for 12 months, only to be replaced under lemon law with a same trim 2022 Sorento which I had for another 3 months before trading it in. Worst 2 cars I’ve ever owned. Tons of problems, some major, some minor. Now I’ve been driving a 2022 Toyota Highlander Platinum AWD for 16 months, not a single problem or frustration. A breath of fresh air in comparison
Literally had a new Kia and a like new Chevy last year we had to get rid of because they were plagued with constant problems.
Ah yes, Honda, the unreliable car manufacturer.
Initial quality doesn’t mean jack sh*t in the long term. Ask anyone who owns an 8-year-old BMW, Audi, VW…
JD Power is an advertising firm. We all know Lexus is superior and Toyotas rank high as well.
They PAY MONEY to get on this list. Kilmer has talked about it several times.
Is this 2023 production vehicles only? So they’ve only had about a year to gage reliability? I refuse to believe that my beloved Toyota isn’t higher up there for 2000-2023 cars…
Gmc and chevrolet are largely the same. So why the difference ? Cuz this shit is not very accurate.
Crazy.
Chevy and Buick are shipping out new full-size SUVs with 3 cylinder turbo charged engines (no way that will be reliable long term), just to barely compete with fuel efficiency. How on earth is a GM turbo charged 3 cylinder comparable or superior to a Toyota 4 cylinder or 4 cylinder hybrid?
Edit: it looks like the study is also based on infotainment failures and such. The system should be weighted. The volume button not working on my steering wheel shouldn’t be valued the same as a catastrophic engine failure.
it’s JD power…. lets bffr 😭😭
Alfa Romeo? or do you guys not really have them as much over there?
Toyota makes the list twice.
Traded my 2014 Corolla for a 2021 Hyundai Veloster N. Veloster N is very quick, a track/auto-x monster, and a hoot to drive; but it was a huge mistake. I’ll keep it short and sweet.
I’ve used the Veloster N’s warranty 3 times in 2 years for electrical issues.
I used the Corolla’s warranty 0 times in the 6 years I owned it because all it ever needed was oil changes, filters, and plugs.
I’m definitely trading the Veloster N for a used Prius when rates go down. Then I’m gonna go hunting for a clean EK hatch to K swap.
JD Power in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSBsq6HBBzw&pp=ygUVamQgcG93ZXIgYXdhcmQgcGFyb2R5
Lol, JD Power is a joke
No way this is accurate when Kia/Hyundai have so many issues with it being stolen, huge recalls with risk of fire, and others.
This says more about JD Power than it does about Toyota.
Yeah Kia is so reliable that’s why they keep getting stolen!! 🤦♂️
As a person who loves Toyota, they have gone down hill… the issues my cars and suv have are ridiculous and are easy fixes but Toyota refuses to fix these problems. My old 2005 echo windows will open at -45 my 2021 rav window will open and then fail to close and the reset needs to be done at Toyota…. Mirrors any mirrors are horrible and unusable oh the have a fix yeah that doesn’t work just get glue everywhere.
Remind me again what is the best selling brand?
Bruh this list is bullshit. Subaru below nissan?! out of their fucking minds. JD power is a joke imo, I don’t respect anything they publish.
J.D Power is a joke
Kia has been launching pretty good cars they’ve improved quality a lot I didn’t like that car company before friends had old models were bad since 2012 they’ve become really good friend bought a Sportage thing is really neat
This may just be anecdotal but I have a 2019 Lexus GX460 and a 2019 Genesis G70. Both were bought brand new with warranties and in the 4 years I’ve owned them, neither have ever given me a problem whatsoever.
If you buy a Kia because of this list, you deserve a Kia.
car companies have to pay JD Power for an “evaluation” and each problem is valued the same no matter the severity. Toyota doesn’t pay JD Power anything but they are pretty much obligated to put them at the top or else it would look really bad if Chevy and Nissan are always up there (two biggest contributors)
JD Power is a paid PR company handing out “awards” to the highest bidder each year.
My Lexus 400h was bullet proof until it wasnt hahaha. I miss that car. I own a Tacoma now.
JD Powers is nothing but a bunch of bullshit reviews that gives favorable reviews to the highest bidder. As a mechanic I can absolutely say with 10000% certainty that Toyota/Lexus will walk circles around ANY brand of car out there. Honda is up there too though they don’t hold the same level of quality as toyota does and that’s coming from a Honda mechanic/dedicated brand loyalist. The fact that Hyundia/Kia made it in the top…. laughable at best.
Say what you guys wanna say but Toyota just is not the same as the old 1990s Toyota’s. Realistically no brands are reliable anymore. I work for a Toyota Dealership and it really seems like Toyota lives off the fact that their cars 20 years ago would run forever. Toyota doesn’t not make all the electronics in the cars. And thats what most of the returning issues are for. It’s almost never engine trans issues, but everything else. I wouldn’t be surprised over the next few years to see that drop further. My 2022 Tundra is literally the most clunky rattly vehicle I have ever driven. Still love the brand and love the company, but profit over quality I think has definitely changed.
Lexus problem: Navigation system froze and had to restart.
Kia problem: Engine blew up.